Like Hell I Won't

On Wednesday night I spent the evening at a security briefing by John Guandolo.

He covered a bunch of stuff I already knew.

During Q&A I asked him, in light of Daniel Pipes', with the Middle East Forum, assertion that polygamy is the most prevalent and dangerous aspect of Shariah law that the U.S. faces today, what did he think the federal government should do? I plainly identified myself as an anti-polygamy activist.

He shook his finger at me, strongly, and told me polygamy was not an issue and "You will not stop polygamy! You cannot stop polygamy!"

As you might imagine, I've been ruminating on that one for a while now. I walked out of that briefing, not upset, but resolute.

I'm certainly not surprised that this is the federal government's position on polygamy now. I'd just never heard one of them come right out and say it--out loud--for real.

The funny thing was as he was shaking that finger at me I wasn't thinking, "Oh no! What shall I do?" I was thinking, "Screw you, Bubba, screw you."

That's about what I left thinking of him, too.

I've tried telling people that the feds are already absolutely corrupt to the crime of polygamy, and people just look at me as though I have announced I was once abducted by an alien race... It's too much for them to process. The implications are too... well, nasty.

The subjugation of American women and children into a harmful form of slavery based on nothing but religious beliefs, called polygamy, is for some inexplicable reason considered not only harmless to women and children but something of "a right" for some men, as long as they continue to operate the whole slavery scam on a religious pretext... Good grief.

The only useful new information I learned at that "security briefing" Wednesday night, with Mr. Guandolo, is that the federal government has decided not to prosecute polygamy as a crime..and is now, obviously, with the nomination of Judge David Nuffer going to really rub it in all our faces.

I don't have anything else nice to say about Mr. Guandolo or the federal government, so I should probably just stop here but you know I won't.

I think I understand you, now: http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/john_guandolo/

Like Hell we won't, Mr. Guandolo. Hide and watch.

The Browns of TLC: Back to the Future of Polygamy

In 2005 I arrived in Mohave County to find the largest decriminalized polygamy experiment in the United States well underway in Colorado City and Centennial Park, Arizona. This was the reality of how polygamy worked. Once I saw this spread sheet, provided to me by a Mohave County elected official, I no longer had to wonder how polygamy worked. It obviously works, because we pay them to keep working it.

The government's generous subsidies, provided to women who file as 'single unmarried mothers,' makes sure the children of polygamy, who are guaranteed to be thrown into a lifestyle of poverty, will never go hungry, and the men of polygamy will not have to invest too much of their earnings into the actual care and feeding of the hordes of children they create but rather can divert those funds back into their businesses and then their "church."

Is it any wonder that FLDS owned, Colorado City based, companies can secure multiple city, county and even federal contracts, when they are able to submit the lowest bid for those jobs, time after time? People have long scratched their heads, wondering how can they complete a job for less money than any other company, even when an honest contractor has repeatedly cut their profit margin to the bare bone on the bid for a job.

Ah, the poor suckers only think they have cut it to the bone. The poor suckers are not only losing business to the polygamists but are actually paying for the food and health care of their concubines and children, as well as actually paying the same for the workers who do the job! You can click here for more information. While the honest poor sucker is paying for his home, wife and children, feeding them, clothing them, caring for them by providing medical care, the polygamists have none of those silly expenses!

The polygamists do not have to bother themselves with such frivolous expenditures. The tax payers feed their children and cover the health care expenses of their extra concubines and children. Their labor costs on the job are much lower than the poor monogamous contractor's as well.

You see, since the FLDS is run on a communal system, every employee working on that job is indeed provided a 'pay check' but to stay in good standing in the "church" he then simply signs it right back over to the boss, who turns it all over to the prophet, who then decides what each worker 'really needs.' Of course, since you and I are paying to feed all the children and provide medical care for the concubines and children, obviously they need less to live on than those of us who have to pay for those things. Since they all live in a home owned by the church, well, that does also save them some money, now doesn't it? That, my friends, is how you consistently underbid all those poor monogamous suckers, who are obviously too dumb to let the system take care of their baby mamas [read: concubines] and children.

It's all based on fraud. Look at that chart up there. Now, because of privacy laws, none of us can be sure who was on that assistance, however, we know no one but polygamists live in that zip code. We also know there are less than 6,000 of them there! And we know from women who have left polygamy that many of them, who were the concubines of highly successful men, were indeed accepting government benefits for themselves and their children. Ask Carolyn Jessop!

This pattern is now repeating itself in Schleicher County, Texas, especially in San Angelo.

Perfectly decent human beings, who make their decisions about business based on costs, are now turning to FLDS owned businesses in Texas, to build their homes, build their roads, even lay the pads for almost every new wind turbine in West Texas. That's a big contract! It could have gone to a company owned by a decent, tax paying, family supporting Texan. Instead, those jobs have now been awarded to polygamists who laugh all the way to the baby mama welfare line. These FLDS polygamist owned and operated companies are now all over the Lone Star State; you can find them in places like Kerrville, Boerne and Amarillo. They use the system against all of us, and call it "bleeding the beast."

What does all of this have to do with the Browns of TLC's "Sister Wives"? Simple, it is called a pattern.

In my next post I'll publish some documents, so you can see exactly how the "Sister Wives," of TLC's smash reality show, are in fact no different from their counterparts in the FLDS.

Polygamy is abuse.

Elizabeth Smart & Brian David Mitchell and Elissa Wall & Allen Steed

Brian David Mitchell, a fundamentalist Mormon polygamist, kidnapped Elizabeth Smart from her suburban Salt Lake City bedroom when she was 14-years-old. For weeks her family and law enforcement were stumped as to what might have happened to her but a relatively unknown anti-polygamy activist named Flora Jessop came forward not long after the kidnapping to warn law enforcement and the public that this had all the markings of the work of a fundamentalist Mormon polygamist.

She was ridiculed and laughed at, and as it turns out, she was right.

It took over 8 years but he was eventually convicted in a federal court for kidnapping Elizabeth and raping her every day, in order to fulfill his mission to his false Mormon god. You see, he needed her, because without participating in polygamy, according to his prophet, Joseph Smith, he could never reach the highest level of the afterlife, where he would become the god of his own planet and live out eternity having sex with all his spiritual wives in order to populate his planet.

A court rejected his argument that he was insane and a jury found him guilty. He was sentenced to 15 years in a federal prison for what he had done to Elizabeth. He stole her innocence and her childhood.

Elissa Wall was born into the Fundamentalist Church of Latter Day Saints in 1986. At the age of 14 she was informed by her family that she was to be given in marriage to her 19-year-old cousin, Allen Steed. She resisted. She cried. She begged her family not to make her marry him. She stood sobbing as her mother and other family members made her stand still for her wedding gown to be fitted.

She was then transported across state lines [violation of Mann Act? Human sex trafficking?] to a motel in Nevada, where the sect's leader, Warren Jeffs performed a marriage ceremony for the two. She told her new "husband" that she did not want to have sex. She begged him not to violate her innocence, and he did it anyway. Later she went to Jeffs to beg him to release her from the "marriage", but he advised her only to go home and submit herself to her rapist, "mind, body and soul."

There you have it, two 14-year-old girls, both raped by fundamentalist Mormons in order to become gods and get their own planet in the afterlife. You see, they needed these girls, had to have them or they wouldn't "get to Heaven."

The difference?

Today the state of Utah offered Allen Steed a plea deal for raping then 14-year-old Elissa. He will serve 30 days in jail for his crime.

Brian David Mitchell raped a 14-year-old and got 15 years in prison.


What is the difference, when neither child was willing to submit to their rapes?

Elissa had the bad luck to be born into fundamentalist Mormon polygamy, and that my friends is a very dangerous place for any girl with her own mind to be born.

Someone please try to imagine your 14-year-old little girl being pushed down and having a man repeatedly forcing himself into her, over and over...and then being sentenced to only 30 days in jail for it.

Shame on Utah, it doesn't deserve to be in our Union, not today. Today you are VILE!

And to any polygamists here it Texas? You take a good long hard look at that flag at the top of this page. You will not succeed in coming here to Texas to rape us or our children, or in making us VILE like YOU. Got it?
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Correction! Thank you, Texas-1 for pointing this out:

"Brian David Mitchell has been convicted, but has not yet been sentenced, his sentencing will be 25 May 2011 in SLC.

Mitchell's wife Wanda Barzee was sentenced to to 15 years, which she is serving at a prison located in Fort Worth."

The debate goes national

The comments on this story, so far, are quite discouraging. The good news is that Mr. Heck, a Christian, is showing extraordinary courage in addressing this issue. I'd hope that anyone who follows this blog, or this issue, will visit the American Thinker over the next few days and help enlighten the public on the real issues surrounding the abuse of polygamy.

American Thinker
The Polygamists Make Their Move

By Peter Heck
The debate over whether or not those practicing homosexuality should be eligible to obtain the legal status of "married" for their same-sex relationships is persistently mischaracterized by activists on both sides as an attempt to redefine marriage. For those opposing such a move, this is most likely an error of ignorance, while for those favoring, it likely is an intentional tactic of misdirection. To be clear, in order to "redefine" anything, there must be an alternative definition being advocated. To this point, no such proposed substitute has emerged.... (Read Full Article)

Toronto Star exposes worldwide abuse of polygamy

Relativism needs a shakedown

Polyamorists decry anti-polygamy law
WENDY STUECK

Canada’s law against polygamy contravenes the religious rights of a polygamous group and was originally enacted to criminalize a religious practice, says a lawyer for the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.

Read full story Here.

The Canadian Polyamory Advocacy Association defines polyamory as the practice of having emotionally intimate, sexual relationships within groups of three or more people. Conjugal polyamory refers to polyamourous relationships in which three or more of the parties live in the same household.

Random thoughts...

Relativism needs a shakedown. Just because you want to be all flowery and non judgmental doesn't give you the moral right to condemn children to a "lifestyle", which will undoubtedly expose them to higher rates of abuse, neglect, poverty and especially molestation.

Every civilized society has a right to decide how they want children protected. It's not hateful or judgmental to say to someone, "No, you can't do that because we know it harms children; and if we find you doing it, we will put you into a jail."

That's why it's called civilization, because the law holds people to a standard of behavior towards it's weakest members, namely children, the elderly and the infirm.

If Canada throws it's children to the sexual predator wolves here, then G-d help their civilization, for eventually they will have none.

Many Griefs Observed

Almost fourteen years ago I stood beside a big black hole in the ground and watched them put the only son I will ever have into it. In a moment like that, what happens when you look up to Heaven? C.S. Lewis said it best, " There is no answer. Only the locked door, the iron curtain, the vacuum, absolute zero."

To effectively describe the hole of grief that the mother of a suddenly and senselessly dead child falls into is not impossible. I could describe it for you but it would break your heart. I called it my own personal Holocaust.

The day after I came back home from Texas, and left my son in that hole, when I woke up and went into the bathroom I was confronted with someone I did not know. My hair had turned snow white, overnight. I was 32. That was the last day anyone ever saw my hair again. I sat on the floor of my bathroom in Charleston, Tennessee and proceeded to tear, rip, pull, shave and cut my head until it was gone for good. Gone. When the frenzy, the self attack was over I simply sat there for hours on the floor, keening. And then I spent countless days on the floor of that bathroom after that doing the same. I'm glad I didn't count them.

There is no bottom. People think there is a bottom but there is no such thing. Some people kill themselves rather than continuing to fall deeper in to the indescribable blackness. I understand why.

There is a pain scale doctors use and a pain scale mental health professionals use. The research indicates that the deepest mental suffering caused by grief is withstood, or not depending on their choice, by the mothers of dead children.

I have heard that the worst physical pain is bone pain. The kind of pain that would be described as "excruciating", the kind of pain that will cause a person to lose consciousness.

For a mother to lose a child, especially suddenly, unexpectedly, violently or senselessly is the mental equivalent of someone taking a chainsaw to one of your limbs. But I thought of it as "the great fire".

It took me two years before the free-fall into the blackness finally stopped. And by that time my husband had other interests and my marriage was over, too.

There is no bottom.

"There is no answer. Only the locked door, the iron curtain, the vacuum, absolute zero."

Survival meant becoming something new. I never went back to normal again. I found a new normal but I was never able to go back to being who or what I was before that day in May of 1997 when my son died.

So on November 22 2006, when I stepped into the Baby Land Cemetery in Hildale, Utah, on the same day that Warren Jeffs was having his preliminary hearing in St. George, I wasn't looking at all those dead childrens graves with any measure of lack of understanding for what each of those mothers who left her child in a hole in that junk yard cemetery might have felt.

People have asked me repeatedly why I have dug in like a tick on this whole polygamy issue. It's because I know the lie. It's because when I heard FLDS mothers were generally given 3 days to grieve a dead child, that Warren Jeffs had decreed stillborn children were not to be buried in the cemetery, because they were born without souls and did not need consecrated ground so they were disposed of like dead animals, and I saw for myself a community where 50% of the graves were those of children....well, I didn't need anyone to tell me that there was abuse in Colorado City. The graves spoke for themselves. Each and every one of them was attached, somewhere, to a mother, G-d help her.

I stood in that cemetery surrounded by blood red canyon walls with my friend, Flora, and I looked up, and around, beyond the field of holes full of children and she was right. There was no way out, nowhere to hide. There was nowhere to run.

I didn't need a PhD in psychology to know exactly what kind of carnage the polygamy in Colorado City, Arizona and Hildale, Utah has produced.

I've got credentials. I am a human being. One who has walked through that fire.

Move along folks, they'll tell you there is nothing to see here, nothing wrong.

Do you really believe that?


It's no secret that the stars are falling from the sky
The universe exploded 'cause of one man's lie
Look, I gotta go, yeah I'm running outta change
There's a lot of things if I could I'd rearrange