ALERT! Here they come!

Immigrants involved in multiple marriage watching polygamy test case: imam

Marten Youssef, The Canadian Press

Read'em and weep.

Now might be a good time to remind everyone what Flora and I have been saying for the last 6 years. This is the essay we wrote that former Arizona Attorney General Terry Goddard backed out of challenging.

Polygamy: Gateway to American Sharia


Polygamy should be prosecuted because it is the largest gateway to the practice of Sharia law in our country today. Fundamentalist Mormons may say polygamy doesn't hurt anyone but that is not the reality reflected in dozens of studies by medical and mental health professionals, worldwide. Polygamy has been studied in multiple countries, with the same results. Polygamy leads to statistically higher negative outcomes for women and children everywhere it is practiced. These outcomes include higher incidences of poverty, molestation, child and spouse abandonment, incest, child marriage, depression and divorce.

We cannot as a free and democratic nation governed by laws allow small groups of people to form operational theocracies, where the rights of women and children are trampled in the name of the religious freedom to keep women in concubinage. How dare we tell the people of Afghanistan that we know more about freedom than they, and then encourage immigrant cultures coming to our country to hold onto, rather than let go of traditions which infringe on the human rights of women. 70% of Muslim women who are first wives say their spouse took the second wife without their knowledge or consent, even though that is never supposed to happen in Islam. How can we as Americans look at the women coming to our shores from countries where they never dreamed of the right even to uncover their faces and say, "Here too, when your husband wants to bring another woman home, there is nothing you can do but live with it, because we are such a tolerant people.” There are more Muslims practicing the felony crime of polygamy in America, using Mohammed as their excuse, than there are Fundamentalist Mormons using Joseph Smith. What do they all have in common? They show a flagrant disregard for U.S. law in favor of their own culture of abuse, justified by their religion.



American Muslim polygamy has only started to grow and yet it already exceeds the estimated 32,000 fundamentalist Mormons engaging in the practice today. It took the fundamentalist Mormons 100 years to get here, yet it has taken Muslims in America less than a single generation to overtake them in numbers.



Refusing to prosecute polygamy will open the flood gates for Sharia based Muslim polygamy to grow to European levels here in the United States, quickly.

Relativism needs a shakedown

Polyamorists decry anti-polygamy law
WENDY STUECK

Canada’s law against polygamy contravenes the religious rights of a polygamous group and was originally enacted to criminalize a religious practice, says a lawyer for the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.

Read full story Here.

The Canadian Polyamory Advocacy Association defines polyamory as the practice of having emotionally intimate, sexual relationships within groups of three or more people. Conjugal polyamory refers to polyamourous relationships in which three or more of the parties live in the same household.

Random thoughts...

Relativism needs a shakedown. Just because you want to be all flowery and non judgmental doesn't give you the moral right to condemn children to a "lifestyle", which will undoubtedly expose them to higher rates of abuse, neglect, poverty and especially molestation.

Every civilized society has a right to decide how they want children protected. It's not hateful or judgmental to say to someone, "No, you can't do that because we know it harms children; and if we find you doing it, we will put you into a jail."

That's why it's called civilization, because the law holds people to a standard of behavior towards it's weakest members, namely children, the elderly and the infirm.

If Canada throws it's children to the sexual predator wolves here, then G-d help their civilization, for eventually they will have none.

Muslim Polygamy in America

Watching this, or interviews with the Browns of TLC's Sister Wives, one comes away with the same explanation from the ladies of the doctrine of submission. 'It is my god's will so I will live in submission to it, even though I admit it hurts me and creates pain in my life that even I can't explain or understand.'

And both seem to have the same answer, too. "My suffering will be rewarded by my god, and it is not for me to question my god's prophet for making me suffer, so I must submit and learn to keep sweet, it is making me a better person."

So I guess life will be better when they're dead?

That's some high goals, girls.

And while they fit very nicely into Sharia law, they have no place in a free country for women. You do not have the right to raise little American girls to submit to the felony crime of polygamy, in exchange for their spiritual salvation.


Those aren't constitutional goals, so good luck with that at the SCOTUS.

Abuse isn't a recognized religion.

Freedom or Submission

The two are an interesting contrast. I read an article written by an atheist this morning, and was interested to see his concern that America would turn into a theocracy. When asked how he pictured a theocracy, he then named Saudi Arabia as an example of his fear.

I worry for intellectuals like this one.

I worry because the ignorance of history is so complete it's, frankly, embarrassing as a fellow American.

In order to have a theocracy everyone in the group must submit to a religious leader and one common religious law. That's how theocracies work.

America, founded by Christian thinkers, based government on the people, and directly declared that this was a just legal model, based on the self evident truth that all men [mankind] were endowed certain inalienable rights, specifically by their Creator.

By naming names, a Creator, they said all mankind is born free. Mankind is meant to be free. It is the natural order of things for every human being to belong only to himself and to G-d. No other human being, institution or government has any natural or contrived right to own another human being. To believe that the founding fathers of our nation didn't consciously know they had created a system of government that would doom slavery among any of mankind following its principles is a stretch beyond my imagination.

LIBERTY cannot ever be taken away from man without due process of the civil law, because liberty is a natural right. No one on earth gave it to you, so no one on earth is supposed to take it from you, unless you have committed crimes that justify the removal of your liberty in order to both punish you, and to protect other citizens from your lawlessness.

The founders of our country believed that only a good people could ever make this system of government work. That's why they believed it would work here, because most people in our country were good.

Their common faith was a bedrock of making the system work. I listened in utter astonishment when President Obama claimed that the history of America was also a Muslim history. Then I cried when I saw an American president bow before a foreign king for the first time in our entire history as a nation.

He bowed before a Saudi King.

He bowed to the monarch of a country that follows Muslim Sharia law and has a history of sentencing women to lashes for the crime of being raped without four male witnesses to the actual rape. That is the law there, you know. Sharia law requires a woman to have four male witnesses to prove she was raped. Otherwise she is just a whore who got what she deserved.

Why would anyone deserve this? According to Sharia law she deserves it, because she failed to submit to the law that says she must always be covered and never alone with any man who is not related to her directly.

So the president of a nation, founded by thinkers who followed a faith that bestowed the most individual and high level of liberty in human history drags us down to the level of a system defined by submission?

The words Muslim, the word for an adherent of Islam, and Islam are grammatical derivatives of the Arabic verb meaning "surrender, submit". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam


All of mankind must submit to Sharia law for the aims of their god to be fulfilled, and that is how world peace will finally be achieved, when we have all submitted. That is how every Muslim can tell you with a straight face that Islam is the religion of peace. They genuinely believe it.

Submission does not create freedom, although in the world of Muslim apologists, who argue that Sharia law is the perfect law for all mankind, submission IS freedom.

This same belief is held by Mormon fundamentalists in the American west, although their allegiance is to a different god; one who requires the submission to polygamy for ultimate eternal salvation.

The women of the FLDS, AUB, Biblical Families, House of Yahwh and assorted independents have all been brought up to believe in the same sort of submission.

When their hearts break and their relationships are over they cannot go to the LDS Church, because they have already been excommunicated from it for having their polygamy exposed.

So there is no food, no shelter, no sustenance available in the greater community. They can file for public benefits. If they are lucky they can find a job and if they are really lucky, with the help of the Safety Net Committee they can find you another polygamous husband.

The Safety Net did everything but help a woman leave. They paid for counseling to help "keep families together". They paid for conferences, where they could discuss how to get their membership signed up for food stamps without fear of prosecution, and discussion panels on how to get polygamy organized, and trips to Texas to educate our attorneys and child protection staffs on how to be culturally sensitive to the felony crime of polygamy.

The state funded Safety Net Committee has never helped a single woman or child get out of polygamy. Instead, they have used their funds to locate, assess and coordinate with the Brown Family to launch a national PR campaign via the TLC cable channel, designed to achieve the decriminalization of polygamy as their end.


The state funded program? Um, gee, actually I think federal dollars were appropriated for the Safety Net Committee to address the needs of women seeking to leave the polygamous lifestyle, weren't they?

So let me get this straight. The Attorney general of Utah took federal dollars and gave them to the Safety Net Committee, then he personally met with all those who conspired with the Browns to create an acceptable and well publicized test case, to purposefully break the federal laws against polygamy...



Yep, I'd say that's a federal case.


Will the FBI and the Department of Justice ignore this?



Anyone? Anyone?

Researcher looking for interview subjects

FYI for any females here who have left a polygamous relationship. I have been assured that anonymity is not only necessary for this study but guaranteed.


Transition and Identity In
Women’s Experience of Leaving
a Polygamous Relationship

Wishing to speak to women over the age of 18 who were members
of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Days and
have exited a polygamous relationship two or more years ago.

I am a woman focusing graduate research on women’s experience
of leaving a polygamous relationship and the impact that this
transition and experience has had on redefining oneself.

If you are willing to share your experience and reflections in
an interview which will advance research on this topic, please
contact me at tdscovil@telusplanet.net for further information.

Terri D. Scoville PhD. Candidate
Division of Applied Psychology
University of Calgary
2500 University Drive, N.W.
Calgary, Alberta, Canada T2N 1N4
tdscovil@telusplanet.net

A Request sent to Canada

December 13, 2009

Hon. Michael de Jong
Attorney General
Government of British Columbia

Dear Hon. Michael de Jong:

If there is no prohibition against a non-Canadian organization participating, the board of directors of Americans Against Abuses of Polygamy is interested in the reference proceedings regarding the ruling on the polygamy law in Canada. As Executive Director, I wish to receive a) a copy of the reference questions; and, b) a letter inviting the AAAP to apply to the Court to be added as a party or intervener in these proceedings.

The cultural practice of polygamy has been identified by the United Nations as a recognized human rights abuse of women, worldwide. Part of the stated mission of the AAAP is to educate the public on the inherent abuses of the cultural practice of polygamy. Empirical medical research around the globe clearly shows that polygamy is both physically and psychologically harmful to women and children. Polygamy, regardless of the religion used to justify its practice, is an abuse of the rights of women to receive equal standing and treatment with males. We can identify no culture on earth where polygamy is practiced that women agree to this demoralizing "lifestyle", without being raised to believe they must submit to it for reasons of religion.

We are grateful that the government of Canada is finally addressing the question of whether this ancient, oppressive and barbaric practice has any place within an egalitarian democracy.

Sincerely,

--

K. Dee Ignatin
Executive Director
Americans Against Abuses of Polygamy
TripleAP@gmail.com
www.TripleAP.org
www.tripleap.blogspot.com
Abuse is not a religion: http://tripleap.tumblr.com

Orin Hatch's Strong Position on Polygamy

This is the strong position on polygamy taken by Utah Senator Orin Hatch, himself a descendant of practicing polygamists.

America Bows to the "Culture" of Abuse

June 6, 2009

Thank you Hillary...
for submitting to our patriarchs.

In a visit to Egypt which was meant to be a landmark in US-Arab relations, Hillary Clinton chose to have her head covered with a veil, thus forwarding a clear message to more than a hundred million Arab women: "if an American Secretary of State can wear it, it should be okay for you too."

Women of the Arab world and the Middle East suffered and struggled from patriarchal Islamist oppression which escalated in the last two decades. One simple example of the oppression is the excluding of females from all decision making positions as they are thought of as "emotional" and "irrational". Therefore, a woman cannot be a judge in court; neither can she be a full witness, as two women's testimony will be equal to one man. Other examples of the oppression travel around the world dressed in full black, with no openings, even for breathing.

In a total control of governmental and non-governmental mass media, Islamist ideologists brainwashed generations into the idea that females are deficient human beings with an evil urge to disgrace and dishonour. Therefore, they should be restricted into a narrow zone lest they bring shame and filth upon the innocent unsuspecting patriarchs at home. The same ideologists who hold the binding veil in one hand, hold another unreserved banner in the other hand which assures the males' biological need for more than one sexual partner and tries to polish legalized polygamy with baloney testimonies of "'…being fair among wives when it is too difficult".

None of these misogynist ideologists mention the human catastrophe which befalls the female and children population in an Islamist city. In the religious city of Najaf, south of Baghdad 20% of the adult female population are abandoned wives with no income. They are second, third and fourth wives of men who had taken off for other women. Their husbands do not care to divorce them or to spend on their wives and their children. In the "holy" city of Najaf, masses of destitute women and children roam in the streets and may manage to live off the charity of religious institutions which had justified their abandonment and poverty in the first place.

The Islamist ideologists do not feel compelled to justify the tragedy of tens of thousands of women and children of a polygamist culture. They continue to pump a woman serves man ideology to the young generations to perpetuate the males' misogynist practices and the females' submission to misogyny as part of faithfulness and godliness.

There was a time of progressive leftist change in the Arab and Middle Eastern societies. It coincided with a world-wide movement for liberation from colonialism. Our mothers' generation benefited from that age as they reached to the university seats and became doctors and engineers.

Still, it took many years of political and feminist struggle to get rid of the veil and the control of patriarchs who imposed the veil on them. As you may know Hillary, these women were not born with the veil. It always takes a misogynist patriarch to tie it around your head and neck. But these women gracefully succeeded and got rid of the veil, the symbol of their oppression. From thereon came the female Ministers, judges, scientists, doctors, and engineers.

Hillary … We are proud of our bodies and do not need to cover them to please your allies, the Islamist patriarchs. We also know that our fight for women's rights needs to parallel with a fight to end the US occupation in Iraq, as we have only witnessed deterioration in our lives and social status since day one of the occupation. Thanks to you and others like you, the Islamist patriarchs are ruling as government and militias in Iraq now. We know that women of Iraq cannot dream of a day of freedom as long as the US troops are in here.

If you need to flirt with your Islamist patriarch allies, go ahead. But never dare speak in the name of women and women's rights. Stick with the patriarchs in the boy's club as it serves you better.

Yanar Mohammed

Organization of Women's Freedom in Iraq, president
OWFIwww.equalityiniraq.com

Press Release

Americans Against Abuses of Polygamy*******PRESS RELEASE*******Announcing the “Texans Know a Load of Corn When They See it, Oprah!” photo op

Americans Against Abuses of Polygamy’s 2009 Friends and Survivors picnic will be held in San Angelo, Texas on June 27th at Glenmore Park, at noon. There will be many survivors of American polygamy present, hoping to meet Texans and explain the realities of the abuses they experienced, in person.

In 1953, the State of Arizona raided the polygamous community of Shortcreek, in what is now Colorado City Arizona, home of the Fundamentalist Church of Latter Day Saints, currently led by Warren Jeffs, alleging abuse of underage girls, forced to engage in sexual relationships with much older men, under the guise of, “celestial marriage”.

After the Arizona raid, the FLDS leadership responded with a concerted public relations campaign to show America how normal polygamy is.

A piece in LIFE Magazine was the turning point in the public relations war, winning sympathy from across America, and calls for the FLDS to be left alone to practice their quaint religion, which apparently harmed no one.

The man on the front page of LIFE, shucking corn with his concubines, who won the PR war for the FLDS, was Clyde Mackert.

Over 50 years later, we will recreate that scene, at our Friends & Survivors picnic, with smiling corn shucking survivors, backed by Texans around a sign that reads, “Texans Know a Load of Corn When They See it, Oprah”!

Although, this time Kathleen and Rena Mackert, daughters of Clyde Mackert, still unborn at the time of the photos, will be there among the survivors, front, and center. Both escaped polygamy, and both were sexually molested their entire childhoods, by the same smiling, corn shucking man who won the last national PR war for the FLDS.

We will send the photo from LIFE Magazine with ours, to Oprah Winfrey; because we think she is playing the role of LIFE Magazine for the FLDS. Her exclusive interviews inside the YFZ Ranch, a year after the Texas raid, were full of softball questions and concentrated on bread baking and the family nature of the FLDS. She went on to ad her opinion that the U.S. prohibition against the cultural practice of polygamy should be re-examined.

For more information, please contact executive director, k. Dee Ignatin.